I mean, I look at goats for sale all the time. I don't usually find goats that I REALLY want. (Besides the Kastdemur's bloodlines that I love and which I have. :greengrin: ) While surfing the internet today I find that Sand-Bur-Kids, owner of Narrow Way DC Clarice - 2005 National RGCH/BU at age 8, is selling out. They have three, yes three, daughters of Clarice for sale - all out of different sires. And ALL three have nice, short pasterns...something I REALLY like to see. Here's the website: http://www.sandburkids.com/HerdDispersal.html The first one is out of Kastdemur's Audacious - double like! The second one is out of Remuda Winter Cosmos - Copper-Hill bloodlines(which I also like and have). I also used a buck(and have his littermate sister) that is out of Constellation, Cosmos littermate brother. And finally the third one is out of Thunder-Ridge PDF Water Skater, so she is a full sister to Grizzley - sire of Saada Bearly Zimri, whose udder I LOVE...actually I must admit I like the whole doe. I also love Saada Bearly Lavendar's udder as well. But alas! I do not have the $1,300 to fork out for the three of them. Not to mention Sand-Bur-Kids is located in OR while I'm clear across the country in OH. :roll: Almost all of the herds I like are on the stinkin' west coast! :GAAH: Oh yes, and I do not have the room. I need to cut back as it is with 5 Sr. does, 6 dry yearlings(think of how much fun it will be with 6 FF's next spring! Yippee!), 3 kids and 1 buck who is co-owned - bringing my grand total to 14 1/2. Well I'm done now. :laugh: I know you goat people will understand!