Would You????? A CL concern.....

I would pass. It's not worth the risk.

 

I will say I have heard of a couple farms that have had CL on their property.... I assume their absesses didn't burst though or they were in quarentine as they test yearly for CL and have never had any problems.

On that note.... you do risk the issue of internal absesses.... It is possible he has those even if none are visibly seen.

It is up to you.... Personally.... Since he has been vaccinated I would pass since you can't be 100% positive if he has it or not....

 

Too scary for me to risk it.

 

I worked on a farm briefly that had had Cl in the past but "hadn't seen any abscesses for a long time" when I got there and actually worked with the goats I noticed at least two with abscesses that no one had noticed for some reason. If you do lean more towards getting him I would inspect the herd very very carefully... personally it wouldn't be worth the risk...
M.

 

I dont know, but it does sound like you are going to be paying a bit of money for him, I would guess with the vet checks and all........your call, but the way I look at it is they can test neg, then pos. and on and on, it doesnt sound like the tests are 100% for sure (of what I have gathered) so no matter what it is a risk. I respect the fact that this lady was honest, but you need to think about if it is worth it, and if you do then I go with natural goats, look for scars ANYTHING!!

 

I would pass. CL affects the lymph nodes and goats have many lymph nodes inside their body so they can have abcesses going on inside with no notice on the outside. Also, like stated above it is always a possibility that their goats do have exterior abcesses and they missed them.

I think you could find a buck with great bloodlines from a cleaner herd.

 

Paranoia is good about CL, if everyone is vaccinated then how do you know you aren't bringing the bacteria home on your feet, or the goat's feet, since it can live in the soil a very long time (they don't seem to know how long, I have heard a range of 2-10 years, they really don't know). Even if the buck hasn't got it you could bring it home. Plus it might make it harder to sell your goats to have this buck on your property. I think I would pass.

 

Jan's point about the selling is a good one. I hadn't thought of that.
M.

 

^^^DITO! Im guessing you prob. have worked hard for the name you have and the rep. you have.

 

I agree with everyone else! Sooooooo not worth the risk.....PASS. There will be another buck!

 

I wouldn't chance it! You have put so much time and money into your herd why chance losing everything with one goat. There are many fabulous bucks on the market, this one might be priced low because he cannot be proven to be CL free.

If I were you, I would save the money you would spend on him add a few more hundred dollars and get a buck that is fabulous and clean!!

 

Had the same question a few years ago. Knew all the risks. But i bought him anyhow. Haven't had any problems. Worst thing he brought in was ringworm, and that's easy to clear up if you isolate.
I totally understand why everyone is saying no! (and i have to admit, i'm not a fan of the CL vaccine at all) But if he is vet checked and the farm really hasn't had any problems for years..... The biggest risk is the unknown. In this case, you know the risk you would be taking, and it seems that it already has been managed, and will continue to be managed well. just my two cents.

Had to be different. guess i'm a rebel like that LOL

 

^ :laugh:

 

The vaccination actually wouldn't be that bad of an idea if it's around the area. Unfortunately it can be picked up and spread in so many ways.

 

:ROFL:

 

But, still wouldn't the issue be, you would never know if it was positive or not? What I have read of the CL vaccine, 1) it is VERY hard on goats and can actually kill them! and 2) you will ALWAYS get a positive blood test, I read a lot about it before I got my dairy goats, and I never read anything about the positive ever going away??

It's interesting that you ask this question, just tonight I was speaking to a friend who raises Boers and she has some in her herd that have had it, but, she has three does who came from clean herds who have never had a problem or abcess and the Buck she had came from a clean herd and never had an issue either. They are full blood and I was possibly interested in a buckling...ONLY....if I had them all tested. And as paranoid as I have been over the goats I have now, I'm thinking I spoke out of turn and feel stupid, cause even if we tested Mom, dad and baby, it still may be too risky!! Dang it jim!!! LOL! :GAAH: