[andunham]

but Flower sounds like a special case.

Oh he is special alright 🤣 but in a lot of wonderful ways, too 💕

For cedarcide vs. wondercide, they are pretty similar, like you said. There are several places that say wondercide is better in terms of pets because of specialized products (flea and tick collars don't apply, though). The only other difference is some of the ingredients and that wondercide is more oily, which doesn't matter to me. One question i do have, even though it DOES say it's non-toxic: have your goats ever licked it and had any reactions? I'm leaning toward wondercide with all of the reviews, and that you use it.

 

[FizzyGoats]

I think you’d be ok with either product. I haven’t noticed it being oily but haven’t ever used Cedarcide as a comparison. And this is my first season using Wondercide. My goats have never licked it, but they have nibbled a spot here or there that had it with no ill effects. I just spray it on a rag and rub them down with it every other day while they eat breakfast. It has done wonders to keep them from being so bothered by all the winged pests. I have the pet/home kind that kills and repels fleas, ticks, and mosquitoes, and it seems to deter all the various flies around here too, though I don’t believe that’s on the actual description on the bottle.

 

[andunham]

I think you’d be ok with either product. I haven’t noticed it being oily but haven’t ever used Cedarcide as a comparison. And this is my first season using Wondercide. My goats have never licked it, but they have nibbled a spot here or there that had it with no ill effects. I just spray it on a rag and rub them down with it every other day while they eat breakfast. It has done wonders to keep them from being so bothered by all the winged pests. I have the pet/home kind that kills and repels fleas, ticks, and mosquitoes, and it seems to deter all the various flies around here too, though I don’t believe that’s on the actual description on the bottle.

I think I’ll try it. Thank you for the info 🙂

 

[andunham]

I think you’d be ok with either product. I haven’t noticed it being oily but haven’t ever used Cedarcide as a comparison. And this is my first season using Wondercide. My goats have never licked it, but they have nibbled a spot here or there that had it with no ill effects. I just spray it on a rag and rub them down with it every other day while they eat breakfast. It has done wonders to keep them from being so bothered by all the winged pests. I have the pet/home kind that kills and repels fleas, ticks, and mosquitoes, and it seems to deter all the various flies around here too, though I don’t believe that’s on the actual description on the bottle.

I think I’ll try it. Thank you for the info 🙂 there are a bunch of different options so I appreciate you telling me which one you use for your goats ☺ I just want them to not be uncomfortable. Any particular scent you like? It doesn’t particularly matter lol just interested in which one you like

 

[FizzyGoats]

I think I got the lemon scent but I wish I got the other one, cedar, I think. Only because my dogs hate it and I’m wondering if they would have liked the other one better. My goats don’t seem to mind it at all.

 

[andunham]

I think I got the lemon scent but I wish I got the other one, cedar, I think. Only because my dogs hate it and I’m wondering if they would have liked the other one better. My goats don’t seem to mind it at all.

I was leaning toward cedar. It is one of my absolute favorite scents on earth. Wouldn’t hurt for the dogs either… my parents are extremely irresponsible with flea/tick control (I will go broke for stuff like that because I want that crap to stay outside and off animals). Maybe they should get it too!

 

[FizzyGoats]

So I never noticed it being oily, but now that you’ve asked about it, I am more aware and there is a slight oily feeling to it. It doesn’t last though. Hopefully I didn’t mislead you on that. I just never noticed it until you mentioned it.[emoji28]

 

[andunham]

So I never noticed it being oily, but now that you’ve asked about it, I am more aware and there is a slight oily feeling to it. It doesn’t last though. Hopefully I didn’t mislead you on that. I just never noticed it until you mentioned it.[emoji28]

No worries! I don't mind it being a little oily. i got it from amazon, so hopefully, if I don't like it they will take it back. I JUST tried it today, and I got the cedar scent, but man... it STINKS. lol I'm very sensitive to smells so i thought it was just me, but my son was like "that smells" LOL

 

[andunham]

So I never noticed it being oily, but now that you’ve asked about it, I am more aware and there is a slight oily feeling to it. It doesn’t last though. Hopefully I didn’t mislead you on that. I just never noticed it until you mentioned it.[emoji28]

Also, my whining about it smelling bad (to me) - it was gone in ten minutes lol Only smelled cedar. Now, crossing my fingers it is successful. I've seen a decrease in head shaking and hoof stomping today!

 

[FizzyGoats]

Well that sounds promising. And maybe I’ll just stick with my lemon scent. Lol.

 

[andunham]

Well that sounds promising. And maybe I’ll just stick with my lemon scent. Lol.

I’m noticing they are still head shaking intermittently. I was told if they have ear mites it would look dirty and/or crusty but nothing there! I’m thinking about getting the wondercide to spray the perimeter to see how that works, too.

 

[andunham]

I think this is related to housing since it includes a question (or a few) about the enclosure around their housing. They have one area where they are frequently, over by the gate, and naturally, there is a lot of poop and pee there. I'm totally okay with raking stuff up into a pooper-scooper type thing (think dust pan with a long handle), but that only does so much in terms of stink. There isn't some god awful, horrendous smell, but it does stink in that area. I have started putting sand down, but circumstances and low income are preventing me from getting the amount i need, and same goes for concrete blocks. Do any of you have any suggestions or things you do for odor control? Inside their shed (barn, whatever I call it on that day haha), in between clean outs (doing at least 1x a week now), I use Sweet PDZ stall refresher and it works great, but I'd rather not spend the money on that to just pour it all over the ground.

So... essentially looking for any practices you all might use, suggestions, ideas, etc. on how to control that mild stink in that area in the enclosure (in addition to raking and starting the process of covering the area in sand).

 

[ksalvagno]

Barn lime is cheaper than PDZ.

 

[andunham]

Barn lime is cheaper than PDZ.

I just looked it up My first question was going to be if it is safe for my boys, which it 100% is. I was going to ask because these two… man, they are the kids who ate glue in kindergarten (that’s not meant as derogatory, just their strange curiosity) lol, they were tasting the sand yesterday and I had to use the spray bottle. Clearly, they have realized the sand doesn’t taste good.

This is useable outside in that area, or should I be looking at something additional to go with it? I know it would have to be raked up - don’t want a build up of yucky stuff getting smushed into their hooves (right?). Kind if like litter in terms of cleaning it up? Sorry if these seem like strange questions - I just want to make sure I’m taking all the right steps. With all the soft mud and trodden poop… cleaning out hooves before trimming was gross lol not that i haven’t done it before.

 

[ksalvagno]

You would probably have to sprinkle some daily. You'd have to play around with the amount.

 

[andunham]

You would probably have to sprinkle some daily. You'd have to play around with the amount.

I saw it was 3.99 for a FIFTY pound bag! The Sweet PDZ is 10$ for 20 pounds. I’d have to put a decent amount down - a little more than a sprinkle initially, but then play around with how much I need to add/rake up, etc. just like you said. This is doable. It is an affordable, temporary fix until can get enough sand and concrete blocks to make a difference

 

[FizzyGoats]

I use barn lime all the time. I only use PDZ once or twice a week in the goat barn because of the price. Lime is daily for me. I use it in the turkey coop too with all the baby poults. And in the chicken coop. Seems to work really well and so far no one has had any issues with it, not the goats or the birds.

 

[andunham]

I use barn lime all the time. I only use PDZ once or twice a week in the goat barn because of the price. Lime is daily for me. I use it in the turkey coop too with all the baby poults. And in the chicken coop. Seems to work really well and so far no one has had any issues with it, not the goats or the birds.

I think this is my best option right now. Sand isn’t feasible right now, and the barn lime seems like the best bet for that area in front of the gate, even if it is outside. From what I’m reading, if it gets wet it’s not an issue either for the animals, so I’m pretty sold on this

 

[FizzyGoats]

I will warn you it can get a bit slick sometimes when wet. Most of it has little gravelly bits in it now to combat that.

 

[andunham]

I will warn you it can get a bit slick sometimes when wet. Most of it has little gravelly bits in it now to combat that.

I'll have to ask one of the ladies I work with - she has horses and I know she mentioned barn lime at some point. I don't want anything slick just because I don't want them to fall and I certainly don't want to fall lol i fell once and got a concussion and surgery on my hand - I'd rather steer clear of any more of that haha

Someone I worked with said to just use dirt but... no one around here is just giving away dirt, so the option is to buy soil from work, and that's not cost effective at all lol So, I'll have to experiment with some things; it's just that spot and one other, so once the odor is controlled in those two places, i think we'll be golden until I can afford to do all the things i have planned. Thank you for all the info, too