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Enterotoxemia in 12 day old doeling

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The week before last I had an URI run through my herd. This is the first time in all the years raising goats that this has happened. I would see one or two at a time but never like this. It came at the most inopportune time as the Easter cabritos were hitting the ground. I got out in front of it and with the help of the vet we were able to get in under control. However, I lost one of my largest nannies and have another one that is not able to nurse. My vet performed a necropsy on the nanny and she did have pneumonia. We are waiting for the cultures to come back. She had beautiful twins--one of each--and luckily they took to the bottle when their mom died (5 days old). Fast forward to last night.....

I went out for the 10:00 feeding and this doeling--Mini--was the first to nurse. I noticed after she finished she curled up under the chair instead of jumping around as normal. After I put the others up I went and picked her up and noticed she was coughing and was very congested. I took her inside and her temperature was 102.9. I gave her a dose of Excenel and within twenty minutes she started to bloat. I tried massage but it progressed and I gave her Therabloat. She began to scream and wirth in pain and then fell unconscious. I thought she had died. I was inside the house and the only needles I had at my disposal quickly were 20 gauge. She was lying limp in my lap but I could feel her heart still beating. I prayed first and then I pierced her rumen and the air began to escape. I did this twice. Her heart rate began to slow and her breathing became more regular. It took about five minutes for her to regain consciousness. I then ran into the barn and grabbed the CD antitoxin. I tried to get 5 cc SQ into her but accidently pierced through and through so I only got about 4 cc in. However, she began to seem more relaxed. I gave her 0.1 cc of Banamine in the muscle. I could not believe she was actually alive! She curled up beside me and about an hour later the bloat came on again very rapidly. I set her on the floor to try to get her to walk but she began screaming and stretching and then looked like she was trying to summersault. She was having a seizure. I quickly gave her 5 cc more of the antitoxin and in less than 3 seconds she was quiet and the bloat resolved. I then gave her Combipen and B complex. She finally fell asleep around 0330 and woke up this morning with tail wagging and wanting to eat. I gave her some electrolyte solution--she was not happy about that--but thought it was probably not best to give her milk. I then called the vet.

The vet told me he thinks she will make it and the worst is over. I told him I think there was Devine intervention and this little goat has a purpose in this world and it is not for Easter dinner! He told me to get her back on the milk as soon as possible at half the amount she normally takes and to keep her on the Excenel for 5 days. He told me he prefers Pedialyte to the electrolyte powders for the kids. I brought her to work with me and she is resting comfortably but will not take the bottle--milk or Pedialyte. Her cough is better but she is still quite congested.

I know this is a long post but I just wanted to share my experience. It is imperative that all goat owners--especially ones that are breeding--have CD antitoxin on hand. I have to order it as our local stores do not carry it.

Any thoughts out there or other experiences with this?

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#3 ·
Good job on your quick thinking :goodjob:..I agree..cd antitoxin is one medication we ALL need to keep on hand. I would also look to see if she is getting too much milk at once. If she is getting more than her body can digest between meals, this can cause her issues. I start with 10% of body weight in oz then I adjust that amount per the goats needs. I look for a flat but nice and firm tummy, not too poochy and not sunken in. I make sure baby is pooping and active etc. Again..Good Job on getting her through that. I have never had to poke the rumen to relieve gas, but would do it if it was needed.
 
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It is possible I am giving too much milk at a time. There is a large gap between the morning and late afternoon feeding because of work so I let them fill up. I am wondering also if her URI contributed to this. She is coughing less this afternoon but still congested. I am giving her some pro bios and her antibiotic. I am optimistic she will continue to improve.
 
#6 ·
dzt66, CD "Anti toxin" is a medication that counteracts the toxins (poisons) that the clostridium diseases cause. Those are sometimes caused by over eating, eating moldy foods, eating things like chicken feed, etc. basically, when an animal eats too much or the wrong thing, poisons (toxins) are formed and the animal can bloat and die.

The CD Anti toxin helps cure that.
A lot of people give a "CD Toxoid" shot to goats at 3 weeks old and a booster 3 weeks to a month later. That helps prevent the over eating diseases. But, if a baby is too young or the goat wasn't immunized, than you give the ANTI toxin.

Most stores do not carry the Anti Toxin, you have to order it from Jeffers, PBS, etc.
 
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dzt66, CD "Anti toxin" is a medication that counteracts the toxins (poisons) that the clostridium diseases cause. Those are sometimes caused by over eating, eating moldy foods, eating things like chicken feed, etc. basically, when an animal eats too much or the wrong thing, poisons (toxins) are formed and the animal can bloat and die.

The CD Anti toxin helps cure that.
A lot of people give a "CD Toxoid" shot to goats at 3 weeks old and a booster 3 weeks to a month later. That helps prevent the over eating diseases. But, if a baby is too young or the goat wasn't immunized, than you give the ANTI toxin.

Most stores do not carry the Anti Toxin, you have to order it from Jeffers, PBS, etc.
Thanks. Always learning :). I love this forum
 
#14 ·
It does make feeding difficult when we cant be there during feeding times. Is there a chance you could run home at lunch time? or have some one feed between morning and late afternoon? I know not always possible, but a thought. ;)
 
#15 ·
Another thought is we pen babies up at night when they are 2 weeks old, (we do this to milk moms in the AM). Some do the opposite and pen during the day to milk at night. so maybe plan your feedings with this in mind by penning baby up when you are not home during the day and feed them when you are home. The key is getting them their daily amount, doesn't matter too much when that is. Wishing you all the best
 
#17 ·
I keep my little ones penned up during the day. Because of our stray dog problem I want to be able to hear them if something happens so I only let them out when I am here in the evening and during the day on weekends when the guys are here working. I never let my little ones out until they are two weeks old. If I have to bottle feed them from birth I actually take them to work with me for the first week-sometimes two if they have issues. My secretary loves it and takes care of the feeding!❤ I wish I had time to come home during the day more often but I live quite a ways from town. This little one is back to coming to the office so I can give her smaller, more frequent feedings.