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Testing for CAE, CL, and Johne’s

2.5K views 7 replies 5 participants last post by  daisymay  
#1 · (Edited)
Hey all. I’m hoping to be testing my herd of 8 goats and 2 sheep soon but I want options on what lab to go with (I hear WADDL Is popular) with CAE and CL, and what fecal test to use for Johne’s.
The sheep are about 9 months and the
goats are 8 months-5 years. I believe these diseases can be passed during breeding correct? Because I have a 9mo goat named Birch who dam is dead, but I still have his sire, so if Cirrus tests negative Birch will be as well?

Also, would it be socially acceptable (I don’t believe it is) to only test parents to save money? I would only do this if the 3 goat kids are still too young for testing to be reliable, but i need to do the sheep anyways, and they are the same age, roughly, so it doesn’t make sense.
 
#2 ·
If moms are negative and kids never were exposed to any other source then they should be negative as well. Testing them is your decision. Some prefer to wait until kids become breeding age. 6+ months is testing age for most disease except Johnes. Johnes I believe is best after 2 years? Signs of infection usually after 4 years old. WADDL is good to do all testing in one place. Their web page will give directions on how to collect and store then ship.
 
#4 ·
I think I may test only my adults, thus excluding the kids (including sheep). At their age would the kids even spread these diseases to the others? I’m aware they would spread it to the pasture, but if the adults are negative I’m probably fine. I’d probably test everyone again next fall.

are these diseases spread through breeding?
 
#5 ·
I personally only do the biosecurity screen which is just blood. I had considered doing a pooled fecal for Johnes at one point but didn’t.
CAE can someone transmitted through breeding, but mostly blood or milk (like hiv), CL is spread from the pus so technically not through breeding but if either party has a burst abcess at breeding it would spread. Johnes is transmitted from infected feces, so again not exactly by breeding but technically if one party had infected poop on them it could spread them too.
 
#6 ·
I'm gonna do CAE and Johnes tests soon on all my goats who are 15+ months old. I won't test anyone under that, though. I'm not testing for CL. If I have anyone with abscesses pop up, I'll quarantine and test the pus. Since the CL tests are the least accurate (imo)
 
#7 ·
So would it be fine to test just my adults? Do you think buyers for the unborn kids would except unknown CAE/CL/Johne’s status for the kids if the rest of the herd is clean? I don’t want to waste money for it not to be 100%
I’m sure the kids would be clean if the adults were, bc the sheep have lived with the twin kids dam since April.