4 gram treats a 44 lb goat.

What do they weigh?
You may have to give 2- 4 gram boluses to those who are still showing signs, after 3-4 months time, of treatment has past, if they weigh say 100 lbs.

 

There are people who have to bolus every couple months due to their circumstances. So yes, I would bolus the ones you need to more frequently. I'm not suggesting every couple months. You will need to figure out the frequency.

 

I would continue your schedule but give them 8 grams instead of 4.

 

Okay, so I'll double the dose next time for the ones that are around 100 + lbs (that are still looking deficient). For the few tiny ones I'll stick to 4g. I think I'll start with every 3 months.

And we do have a weigh tape.

 

I'm sure that'll be fine. But...

I wouldn't stick to a schedule, were they mine. I'd give a bolus when I see the first reappearance of deficiency symptoms. Sticking to a schedule may mean you never really notice the signs, but the more you look for the signs, the earlier you will see them, and so the easier the deficiency will be to correct.

But your way will work, too.

 

I keep meaning to mention to you, they need selenium.

 

It's been over a month since they have been bolused (Aug 24th).

Should I bolus the ones showing still showing deficiency again? I haven't seen any difference with the fishtails, the only thing is on the black goats the curls are gone and the reddish hair is straightening out. All the rough feeling, "scruffy" hair is the same though on the ones that had it when I first bolused. Only a few of them already had shiny coats when I bolused.

Some of the boys (including Roger) are being fed a mix of 2 parts alfalfa pellets, 1 part timothy pellets, and 1 part beet pulp pellets every other day (measured out to be 3 cups mix per goat, each goat has a bowl but they all run around switching between each others bowls so they may not all be getting their same amount) because the pasture is not doing well currently due to drought.

 

Here's some pics of Gilbert to compare to the original pics I posted. He got 8 grams copper on Aug 24th.

 

It’s really about when the improvement halts or he worsens. If things are still changing for the better he doesn’t need another bolus. If he holds at that condition or starts to revert back, he needs another bolus.

 

It's really about when the improvement halts or he worsens. If things are still changing for the better he doesn't need another bolus. If he holds at that condition or starts to revert back, he needs another bolus.

How fast should the changing be happening? Isn't it correct that you start to see results from a bolus after a month?
How long to wait before I decide that he is holding this condition and not going to improve any more? And it's not just him, it's him and 19 other goats....most of which still have the rough coats and fishtails.

 

Any improvement is an improvement. If you see an improvement, don't bolus again until you see a stagnation.

Since Fish Tails are not an early sign of copper deficiency, it can take a long time to see a reversal in a fish tail situation.

By the time you see a fish tail, you've had copper issues for a LONG time.. So it stands to reason you won't see a reversal of a fish tail for a long time.

Don't go by a schedule, go by watching your goats. When they stop improving, but still need to improve, THAT'S when to give another bolus. and not before, but certainly not later.

 

If you see NO! improvement in a month, it is safe to bolus again. What you've given has helped, but not enough to see visually. A month should show something.

 

Methinks I need to start taking pics when I bolus them....I forget the tiniest details of what they looked like after a month

 

Whatever you need to do is fine. No one can fault you for keeping track of stuff...

 

Oh yes, it's sooo so difficult... hard work.

I'm not sure if this link will work for you, but if you want something lighthearted:



With the sound on lol.

 

Aww. I just wanna grab their li'l faces and give 'em kisses.

 

What do you think I do all day? [emoji10]

Everyone needs a goat to kiss daily.

 

:great:

 

So, (I mean I already knew this but..) not all of the goaties like having their whole bodies petted. Or they haven't figured out it feels good yet. Some of them like it (George, May, Henry, Roger, Gilbert) but most of them just like having their head scratched. Some will headbutt you if you try to touch their belly!
Guess I will have to have someone hold them still.

 

(thumbup)

 

We gave some of the wether herd (last bolused on Aug 24th) copper boluses yesterday.
They are all over 100 lbs so everyone still showing signs of deficiency got two 4 gram boluses. One of the biggest boys (King) looked a lot better so we gave him 1 bolus. George didn't get his yet but he is not showing the wiry coat and fishtail.
Roger is also on Replamin Plus in addition.
Have to figure out a good way to supplement selenium for everyone. It's too pricy to start everyone on replamin but they all have selenium tails. Was thinking selenium yeast..